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Some thoughts from trina

October 9th, 2005 . by Tom

From our forums, posted by trina the other day about the Judith Miller/Plame connections and other scandals:

… quote from Libby to Judith Miller…

You went into jail in the Summer. It is now Fall (it actually wasn’t, quite, when he wrote the letter on Sept.15th). You will have stories to write, (and he listed four, including BioTerrorism which has suddenly become a big story lately, and a subject with which she has always been ‘obsessed’ according to those who know her. He also mentioned Iran’s Nuclear programs. Libby was part of the Iran invasion crowd).

He went on to say Out West, where you vacation, the Aspens are turning. They turn in clusters because their roots connect them. Some people who have tried to interpret this strange note sent to a woman in prison, say there are key words for her in it. Fall Someone’s going to fall and turning in clusters because their roots connect them. This may have meant that those on his side (which may include Judy) have decided to turn to save themselves.

Many people seem to think there are two factions ~ the Bush faction, which includes Rove and the Corporatists, and the Cheney faction, which includes Libby, Perle, Douglas Feith (his assistant, Larry Franklin) has just entered a guilty plea to spying in the Pentagon.

The Larry Franklin story is really a big part of all of this. Douglas Feith, Libby et al, are the neocons who plotted all the lies about the WMDs and Terror connections with Iraq.

It’s interesting that Judith Miller waited until Larry Franklin entered his plea (which means he will testify against Weissman and the other guy) before she and Libby decided it was alright to testify and get out of jail!! The news media ignored that big story for some reason.

So, what if the Cheney faction found out that Rove had betrayed them, to save himself (he’s been before the GJ three times already). Larry Franklin is also making deals and who knows what he has told the other Federal prosecutors, although Libby may have a clue.

So Libby writes that coded note to Judy (and Bolton visited her also before she got out) to tell her that THEIR side, have now decided to ‘turn’ all together, so there’s no need for her hide in prison anymore!!

Come back to work. And to life. Why would he say ‘come’ back? She works for the NYT, (supposedly) although many people now believe she was working for the neocons, and that is why she wrote all those stories about the WMDs, using Chalabi as her ’source’ and his Curveball friend.

Judith Miller, some believe, was supposed to write the story of finding the WMDs. She was sent by Rumsfeld as an embedded journalist when the military unit she was with, were told there was a scientist who would lead them to WMD evidence. That failed.

So, according to some of what I’ve read, Cheney et al, were planning to plant WMDs. Valerie Plame’s operation was undercover, following the money of WMD sales, and may have stumbled on the intended planted WMDs. So, when Judy Miller went to find them, they were not there. That would explain her bizarre behavior in Iraq, reported by Washington Post reporter who said she was giving orders to the troops, and threatening to call Rumsfeld if they did not listen to her.

It’s really a complicated story, but I no longer think they outed Valerie Plame only because Joe Wilson wrote an article in the NYT. I think they wanted to destroy her network because they were interfering with their criminal dealings with WMD to plant in Iraq, and who their contacts were, maybe even Iranians, since the neocons, Perle, eg, were very involved in Iran.

Maybe that’s why the judge, after Fitzgerald showed him some of what he was working on, overcame his reluctance to throw a reporter in jail, and said that this was a crime of such magnitude, that he would forego his normal reluctance in such matters, and he put her in jail. I think he also said it involved National Security.

I think Judith Miller was told by Libby that people are talking, and maybe Libby has made a deal, in order for Fitzgerald to get someone much more important ~

Rove was called back today before the GJ, but that was cancelled until next Tuesday.

And today, I read, that the Special Prosecutor now wants to see Judith Miller again, on Tuesday also.

I think Cheney and Bush were involved in all of this. So many were, Bolton, Gonzalez, all the neoncons, Douglas Feith, Rumsfeld et al.

It would be great if Bush and Cheney were unindicted co-conspirators, and had to step down. Hastert, next in line, Speaker of the House, has been accused of some nefarious deeds lately also.

It almost feels like whoever is behind all this, is trying to save the country. They made sure to get Tom Delay, Frist (under
investigation for insider trading now) and Hastert, out of the way, before the big indictments come down!!

Maybe I’m just dreaming, but it is strange that all of this is happening at the same time. Maybe to be sure they cannot get out of it?

………

The Abramoff affair (really bad for Tom Delay, Norquist maybe and Ralph Reed et al, and many Republican members of congress). The top Republican Lobbyist’s partner’s ‘consultants’ were arrested on charges of the murder of a man from whom Abramoff and Kidan, his partner, bought Casino’s in 2000. The murder was unsolved for four years ~ but now there is a Mafia connection to Tom Delay, through Abramoff! Funny it took four years, someone is talking.

The Larry Franklin Affair/Several Spies in the Pentagon, three already indicted, one guilty plea (super bad for the neocons, including Douglas Feith, who quit in January)

The Valerie Plame Affair (so many of them involved in this, a lot of them will probably be indicted, or at least really tainted by it)

Tom Delay (Republican Majority Leader of the House) indicted at last

Sen. Frist (Republican Majority Leader of the Senate) under investigation for insider trading

Rep. Hastert (Republican Speaker of the House, suspected of wrongful dealings with Turks)

Top Administration Official, in charge of Procurements, gave out no-bid Katrina contracts, Safavian, was arrested last week. He was accused of lying to Federal prosecutors regarding Tom Delay

….

Maybe it’s just me, but we’ve been following these stories here for more than two years and gave up on them. Now, all of a sudden, they all get back in the news at the same time!! And there have been indictments and arrests.

It’s almost as if forces behind the scenes are orchestrating it all to make sure that all those who usually cover for this administration are out of the way before the real criminals are arrested. We can dream! :-)

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